Action 4 - Facility, Farms, and Businesses

9/16/14 This information is for archival purposes only. It is not current. For current doings, see .


The objectives of this group are:
1) to determine the feasibility of a large-scale facility in or near Troy to service those not served by the neighborhood-scale options,
2) to understand the regulatory environment/requirements for siting,
3) develop an RFP with the City of Troy (LDC?)- a value proposition

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Current Status

Had an initial meeting and will communicate over email to coordinate further work.
Discussed need for support from the city on this with Lynn Kopka, who is interested in helping from the City Council Prospective.

Next Steps

  • Set up a meeting with Lynn Kopka, and perhaps other council members and city officials (Anasha)
  • Determine feedstock – volume and content, initial and growth. 2/18 note: need to collaborate with working group on commercial/institutions
  • Research and list potential RFP applicants. 2/18 note: we could do a RFI, no? (Request for information) but would need feedstock data first (including yard waste)
  • Meeting with C2B and local farm, Spectrum maybe, Watervliet WOW program, and Schenectady facility.
  • Study regulatory needs – engage with DEC.
  • Come back to City with value proposition

People Involved

  • Anasha Cummings
  • Steven Davis
  • Beverly Bendix
  • Sheree Cammer
  • Christine Hillary
  • Daniel Corda
  • Tyler Holloway


  • Abby Lublin
  • Lynn Kopka



  • C2 Biotechnologies?
  • Possible Space in South Troy Chevron Site (needs negotiation)
  • possibly partner with operator of biosolid composter 20 ft long @ stable near Brunswick golf course
  • Herrington Farms manure composting?

Get Involved


April 6, 2013 5 p.m. meeting Steve, Christine, Tyler, Sheree and, visiting toward the end, Howard
Summary of action items:
site visit plans for Schen. Co. food and yard waste facility,
explore possibilities with 2 local farms who currently compost without food waste (Walsh Farm - Welsh? and Herrington Farms)
check out local static aerated composting with heat as usable byproduct at farm in Easton
Locally Accepting Food Waste:
Schenectady County Soil and Water Conservation District: .
Watervliet Organics Waste (WOW) composting, any updates?
Semi locally Accepting Food Waste:
Van Alstine's Nursery/Horticultural Services Fort Hunter, Montgomery Co.
Ulster Co. Resource Recovery Agency accepting from institutions. It may not be economically cheaper for an institution to contract for food waste hauling.
Not so local Accepting Food Waste:
Onondaga County Resource Recovery Agency
Burlington VT compost operation: very good. It was Intervale Compost Intervale Center: now Green Mountain Compost, Williston, VT.
High Fields Composting, VT gust got kickstarter funds for research on heat capture from composting.
Harvest Power has been buying up CT compost companies (as Greencyle)They claim their compost is NOFA certified for organic growers, and their technologies include static aeration
Facilities that might be approached to add food waste:
Homestead Farm, maybe, but having clean feedstock is a key issue.
What is the maximum amount that 1 person at a facility can keep clean?
US Composting Council has specs for soil erosion and landscaping, food and garden Seal of Testing Assurance
Pig farmer in Poestenkill has an anerobic digester
Empire Zero hauler may recanvass yard waste facilities, about taking on food waste as a pilot.
2 that are close enough are Albany City Yard Waste and Town of Bethlehem Compost Facility for yard waste
perhaps Becker Farms in East Greenbush who sell their (non food waste) composted products
Would Troy bring yard waste to a facility? City of Troy does pick up yard waste now, and residents separate it out, but it is unclear if the crew mixes the yard waste in with the trash in the truck.
Where does the City take the yard waste it collects? The Alamo is for residents to drop off their yard waste, only?
Almstad tree service, Ghent - just filed for a permit to accept food waste. They use forced air.
Placid Hills Stables in Brunswick - has composting equipment and a bagging machine, and horse manure, but an arrangement workable for all concerned has been elusive.
Food waste composting does not generally save $ for hospitals, as food waste is only 10-15% of their waste stream.
In comparison, universities and country clubs have about 40-60% of their waste stream as food waste.
Grocery stores do tend to save $ with food waste pickup.
A rule of thumb: 1/4 to 1/2 pound of food waste per person per meal (probably includes kitchen processing waste, soiled paper etc.).for estimating amount of food waste per institution, also need average number of people feeding per week or day
Organic compost would have no plastic, no soiled paper.
Every other day pickup from institutions is needed, really, because 3 days is too long to wait. Empire Zero recommends 3 times a week.

Committee notes from 2/6/13 Troy Compost Organizing Meeting:

Members: Anasha Cummings, Steven Davis, Beverly Bendix, Sheree Cammer, Christine Hillary, Daniel Corda

Objective: 1) to determine the feasibility of a large-scale facility in or near Troy to service those not served by the neighborhood-scale options, 2) to understand the regulatory environment/requirements for siting, 3) develop an RFP with the City of Troy (LDC?)- a value proposition

- Research and understand technologies available
- Visit sites and conduct interviews
- Engage potential RFP applicants
- Determine potential sites for a facility

[Interface with Financing Committee? - Abby]


- Determine feedstock – volume and content, initial and growth
- Research and list potential RFP applicants
- Meeting with C2B and local farm, Spectrum maybe, Watervliet WOW program, and Schenectady facility
- Study regulatory needs – engage with DEC
- Come back to City with value proposition

[Who, specifically, is “City?” Mayor? LDC? Council? -Abby]

Preferred communication mode: Email

Additional nicely detailed comprehensive notes from Christine:

Anasha, Beth, Cherie, Chris, Dan, Steve
There used to be a composting facility in Menands, but it went out of business because their technology was kind of expensive.
There’s a wood-shedding place in Troy, and neighbors (condos) complained about the smell. Not the noise, apparently.
There are methane gas facilities in Troy. Collecting manure from farms.
NYSERDA grant (especially for emerging technologies)?
"Lavin" (C2G) has patented some microbe that helps compost
anaerobic digestion produces inferior compost?
What about putting an RFP "out on the street" to see what applicants / facilities / methodologies / etc. exist in the area?
We should figure out a potential site/location FIRST (before issuing an RFP)
The South Troy Industrial Facility is currently the "tipping station" for all waste in Troy.
Chevron might "cap" it (pour concrete on it so that the oil and other toxins don’t "leak upwards" and contaminate future operations) and then give it to us.It’s within a floodplain. We have to check the situation with DEC
Some facility in Vermont (Intervale?) just had to move because it was too close to the water.
Alternatively, we could locate the composting site in a landfill, which already has methane capture/generation in place.
What is the minimum area needed for a large-scale composting site?
Could there be a place in Troy where the entire cycle occurs? (from production of organic vegetable waste to production of compost).
There’s a place called Galway in Brunswick near Frear Park where they compost.
dairy farm Herrington Farm does compost.
We need to learn the DEC permitting process.
Steve: There has to be a financial incentive to get someone to respond to an RFP.